You Don't Mess Around with Jim (song)

Last updated
"You Don't Mess Around with Jim"
You Don't Mess Around With Jim Single.jpg
Single by Jim Croce
from the album You Don't Mess Around with Jim
B-side "Photographs and Memories"
ReleasedJune 1972
RecordedOctober 11, 1971; The Hit Factory
(New York City)
Genre
Length3:02
Label ABC
Songwriter(s) Jim Croce
Producer(s) Terry Cashman, Tommy West
Jim Croce singles chronology
"You Don't Mess Around with Jim"
(1972)
"Operator (That's Not the Way It Feels)"
(1972)

"You Don't Mess Around with Jim" is a 1972 strophic (all verses have the same tune) story song by Jim Croce from his album of the same name. [3] It was Croce's debut single, released on ABC Records as ABC-11328. ABC Records promotion man Marty Kupps took it to KHJ 930 AM in Los Angeles, CA where it first aired. It made the KHJ "30" chart (at #27) that week of June 6, 1972. After spending 11 weeks on the Billboard Hot 100 chart, the song peaked at No. 8 the week ending September 9. Croce performed the song on American Bandstand on August 12, 1972. Billboard ranked it as the No. 68 song for 1972.

Contents

Content

The lyrics are set around an underground pool hall on 42nd Street in New York City. "Big" Jim Walker, a pool hustler who is not too bright but is respected because of his tough reputation, his considerable strength and size, and his skill at pool, has formed a sort of gang of "bad folks" who regularly gather at night in the pool hall. Their recurring words of advice is as follows: [4]

You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Jim

A fellow pool player named Willie "Slim" McCoy comes from south Alabama to the pool hall to get his money back from Jim after being hustled out of it the previous week. When Jim comes in, McCoy gets in a fight with him, stabbing him in "about a hundred places" (to the point where "the only part that wasn't bloody was the soles of the big man's feet") and shooting him "in a couple more", ultimately killing him. It is implied that McCoy now has his money back as well as the respect formerly granted to Jim, and the regulars at the pool hall have now changed their advice to strangers: "You don't mess around with Slim".

The song is noted for its spoken recitation, which is heard following the third verse and chorus:

Yeah, Big Jim got his hat
Find out where it's at
And it's not hustlin' people strange to you
Even if you do got a two-piece custom-made pool cue

This is followed by the repeat of the chorus and the repeated coda before the song's fade.

Croce tells a similar story— a much-feared tough guy who gets his comeuppance from someone even tougher— in his later hit single "Bad, Bad Leroy Brown".

Reception

Cash Box described it as being "perfectly polished and honed for super Top 40/ MOR/ FM impact" despite being Croce's first single. [5] Record World said that the song "is just fine, and it appears another star is born." [6]

Live performances

Live versions of the song have been released on both of Croce's live albums, Have You Heard: Jim Croce Live and Jim Croce Live: The Final Tour .

Track listing

7" single (ABC-11328) [7]

  1. "You Don't Mess Around with Jim" – 3:00
  2. "Photographs and Memories" – 2:03

Chart performance


Poison cover

American glam metal band Poison covered the song (under the name ''Don't Mess Around With Jim (demo)''). It is included as a bonus track on the 2006 remaster of their 1986 debut album Look What the Cat Dragged In . It is the 13th track on the album.

Josh Turner cover

Josh Turner covered "You Don't Mess Around with Jim" on his 2003 debut album Long Black Train.

See also

Related Research Articles

<span class="mw-page-title-main">Jim Croce</span> American singer-songwriter (1943–1973)

James Joseph Croce was an American folk and rock singer-songwriter. Between 1966 and 1973, he released five studio albums and numerous singles. During this period, Croce took a series of odd jobs to pay bills while he continued to write, record and perform concerts. After Croce formed a partnership with songwriter and guitarist Maury Muehleisen in the early 1970s, his fortunes turned. Croce's breakthrough came in 1972, when his third album, You Don't Mess Around with Jim, produced three charting singles, including "Time in a Bottle", which reached No. 1 after Croce died. The follow-up album, Life and Times, included the song "Bad, Bad Leroy Brown", Croce's only No. 1 hit during his lifetime.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">Me and Bobby McGee</span> Song by Kris Kristofferson and Fred Foster

"Me and Bobby McGee" is a song written by American singer-songwriter Kris Kristofferson and originally performed by Roger Miller. Kristofferson and Miller are distant cousins in the Chenoweth surname family tree. Fred Foster shares the writing credit, as Kristofferson wrote the song based on a suggestion from Foster. A posthumously released version by Janis Joplin topped the U.S. singles chart in 1971, making the song the second posthumously released No. 1 single in U.S. chart history after "(Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay" by Otis Redding. Gordon Lightfoot released a version that reached number 1 on the Canadian country charts in 1970. Jerry Lee Lewis released a version that was number 1 on the country charts in December 1971/January 1972 as the "B" side of "Would You Take Another Chance On Me." Billboard ranked Joplin's version as the No. 11 song for 1971.

<i>You Dont Mess Around with Jim</i> 1972 studio album by Jim Croce

You Don't Mess Around with Jim is the third studio album by American singer-songwriter Jim Croce, released in April 1972 by ABC Records.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">Moonshadow (song)</span> 1970 single by Cat Stevens

"Moonshadow" is a song written and performed by Cat Stevens, first released as a single in the UK in 1970 on the Island label and in the US in 1971 on the A&M label. It also appears on Stevens' 1971 album Teaser and the Firecat.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">If You Don't Know Me by Now</span> 1972 single by Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes

"If You Don't Know Me by Now" is a song written by Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff, and recorded by the Philadelphia soul musical group Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes. It became their first hit after being released as a single in September 1972, topping the US R&B chart and peaking at number 3 on the US Billboard Hot 100.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">Chain Gang (song)</span> 1960 single by Sam Cooke

"Chain Gang" is a song by American singer-songwriter Sam Cooke, released as a single on July 26, 1960.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">Bad, Bad Leroy Brown</span> Single by Jim Croce

"Bad, Bad Leroy Brown" is an uptempo, strophic story song written by American folk rock singer Jim Croce. Released as part of his 1973 album Life and Times, the song was a No. 1 hit for him, spending two weeks at the top of the Billboard Hot 100 in July 1973. Billboard ranked it as the No. 2 song for 1973.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">Time in a Bottle</span> 1973 single by Jim Croce

"Time in a Bottle" is a song by singer-songwriter Jim Croce. He wrote the lyrics after his wife Ingrid told him she was pregnant in December 1970. It appeared on Croce's 1972 ABC debut album You Don't Mess Around with Jim and was featured in the 1973 ABC made-for-television movie She Lives! After he was killed in a plane crash in September 1973, the song was aired frequently on radio, and demand for a single release built. The single of "Time in a Bottle" became Croce's second and final track to reach number one in the United States.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">Don't Pull Your Love</span> 1971 single by Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds

"Don't Pull Your Love" is the debut single by Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds which became a top ten hit single in 1971. The song was written by Brian Potter and Dennis Lambert.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">Clean Up Woman</span> 1971 single by Betty Wright

"Clean Up Woman" is a song by Betty Wright from her second studio album, I Love the Way You Love (1972). Written and produced by Clarence Reid and Willie Clarke, it was released in November 1971 in the U.S. as a 7" single with "I'll Love You Forever" on the B-side. The song's distinctive guitar lick was played by Willie "Little Beaver" Hale.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">I'll Have to Say I Love You in a Song</span> 1974 single by Jim Croce

"I'll Have to Say I Love You in a Song" is the title of a posthumously released single by the American singer-songwriter Jim Croce. The song was written by Croce and was originally released on his album I Got a Name.

Thomas Picardo Jr., known professionally as Tommy West, was an American record producer and singer-songwriter.

<i>My Second Album</i> 1973 studio album by Donna Fargo

My Second Album is the second studio album released by American country artist Donna Fargo. The album was released in February 1973 on Dot Records and was produced by Fargo's husband and manager Stan Silver. The album spawned two number one singles on the Billboard country chart and was one of two albums Donna Fargo would release in 1973.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">Operator (That's Not the Way It Feels)</span> 1972 single by Jim Croce

"Operator (That's Not the Way It Feels)" is a 1972 song written by Jim Croce. Croce's record was released on August 23, 1972. It was the second single released from Croce's album You Don't Mess Around with Jim. It reached a peak of number 17 on the Billboard Hot 100 in December 1972, spending twelve weeks on the chart.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">I Got a Name (song)</span> 1973 single by Jim Croce

"I Got a Name" is a 1973 single recorded by Jim Croce with lyrics by Norman Gimbel and music by Charles Fox. It was the first single from his album of the same title and also Croce's first posthumous single, released the day after his death in a plane crash on September 20, 1973. The song reached a peak of #10 on the Billboard Hot 100, spending 17 weeks on the chart. It also hit #3 on the Cash Box Top 100.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">Workin' at the Car Wash Blues</span> 1974 single by Jim Croce

"Workin' at the Car Wash Blues" is a 1974 single written and recorded by Jim Croce. It was the third single released from his album I Got a Name. It reached a peak of #32 in July 1974, on the Billboard Hot 100. It is Croce's last Top 40 hit to date. It was also the fourth single released, including Christmas-themed release "It Doesn't Have To Be That Way", after Jim Croce's death in September 1973.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">Jim Croce discography</span> Cataloging of published recordings by Jim Croce

Jim Croce was an American singer-songwriter with five studio albums and 12 singles to his credit. His posthumously-released fifth studio album was completed just prior to his 1973 death, and seven singles were also posthumously issued, one of which was "Time in a Bottle" from a previous album You Don't Mess Around with Jim. His popularity continued long after his death with the release of numerous compilation albums and "new" material being portioned out sporadically over the years. Three live albums, as well as a live DVD, have also been published.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">Rock and Roll Heaven</span> 1973 song co-written by Alan ODay

"Rock and Roll Heaven" is a song written by Alan O'Day and Johnny Stevenson, popularized by The Righteous Brothers. It is a paean to several deceased singers such as Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, and Otis Redding, and has been rewritten a number of times to include other singers. The song was first recorded by the band Climax in 1973, but it failed to chart. It was then covered by The Righteous Brothers in 1974 and reached number three on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100.

Boones Farm were an early 1970s country rock band who were signed to the Columbia label. Releasing an album and two singles, they had some chart success with the song "If You Can't Be My Woman". Two of the group's members would later become the Dalton & Dubarri duo.

"If You Can't Be My Woman" was a chart hit for country-rock band, Boones Farm, charting for two weeks in 1972. It has also been recorded by female artists as "If I Can't Be Your Woman".

References

  1. Breithaupt, Don; Breithaupt, Jeff (October 15, 1996). "Earth Shoes: Folk Pop". Precious and Few - Pop Music in the Early '70s. St. Martin's Griffin. p. 81. ISBN   031214704X.
  2. "50 Rock Albums Every Country Fan Should Own". Rolling Stone . November 12, 2014. Retrieved April 23, 2024.
  3. Billboard artist profile
  4. Google Play Store: You Don't Mess around with Jim
  5. "CashBox Record Reviews" (PDF). Cash Box. June 10, 1972. p. 16. Retrieved December 11, 2021.
  6. "Hits of the Week" (PDF). Record World. June 10, 1972. p. 1. Retrieved March 31, 2023.
  7. Jim Croce - You Don't Mess Around With Jim / Photographs And Memories
  8. Joel Whitburn's Top Pop Singles 1955–1990 - ISBN   0-89820-089-X
  9. You Don't Mess Around with Jim
  10. Cash Box Top 100 9/09/72
  11. Top Singles - Volume 18, No. 5, September 16 1972
  12. InfoDisc archives
  13. 1970s Top 100 year-end charts
  14. The CASH BOX Year-End Charts: 1972