Nottingham derby

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Nottingham derby
County Flag of Nottinghamshire.svg
Other namesTrentside derby
Locale Flag of England.svg Nottingham
Teams Nottingham Forest, Notts County
First meetingNotts County 1–3 Nottingham Forest
1878–79 FA Cup
(16 November 1878)
Latest meetingNottingham Forest 3–3 (4–3 p) Notts County
2011–12 Football League Cup
(9 August 2011)
Next meetingTBD
Stadiums City Ground
Meadow Lane
Meetings total96
Most winsNottingham Forest (40)
All-time seriesNottingham Forest: 40
Draw: 26
Notts County: 30
Largest victoryNottingham Forest 5-0 Notts County
1900–01 First Division
(24 November 1900)
Nottingham Forest 5-0 Notts County
1953–54 Second Division
(10 October 1953)

The Nottingham derby is the name given to football matches contested between Nottingham Forest and Notts County.



The two clubs are amongst the oldest football clubs in the World. County were formed in 1862 and are the oldest professional association football club in the world. Forest were formed three years later by a group of men playing the now largely unknown sport of bandy. [1]

The first meeting between the two clubs was a friendly on 22 March 1866. The match was a 0-0 draw and was probably on the Forest Recreation Ground. [1]

The first competitive meeting in the FA Cup came on 16 November 1878 and resulted in a 3-1 victory for Nottingham Forest. The first league game occurred on 8 October 1892 and resulted in a 3-1 victory for Notts County. [1]

The last league Nottingham derby occurred on 12 February 1994 and resulted in a 2–1 victory for Notts County. Charlie Palmer (or 'Sir' Charlie Palmer as he has been dubbed by Notts County fans) scored with just four minutes remaining and only ninety seconds after Forest had equalised. The date, 12 February, is now known to local fans as Charlie Palmer Day. [2]

Comparative table positions of Nottingham Forest and Notts County in the English football league system Trentside Derby Performance.svg
Comparative table positions of Nottingham Forest and Notts County in the English football league system

The rivalry was resurrected on 9 August 2011, when the clubs met in the first round of the Football League Cup at the City Ground, with Forest winning a penalty shootout after the match had ended 3–3. [3]

Aerial image of the two club's grounds Nottingham.jpg
Aerial image of the two club's grounds

The two clubs rarely meet as they are in different tiers of the league system and supporters generally view other regional clubs as more prominent rivals. However, recent years have seen incidents of trouble between supporters. In 2007, a 'friendly' match between the clubs saw violence erupt after the final whistle. [4] And in 2017, several followers of both sides were convicted of taking part in a prearranged mass brawl in a pub in Nottingham. [5] Another friendly match the previous summer also saw four arrests. [6]


The two clubs have met a total of 94 times in the League, FA Cup and League Cup. The two sides have contested games in a number of other competitions including the Nottinghamshire County Senior Cup and the Anglo-Italian Cup. The results and statistics from those games are not included below. [1]

County winsDrawsForest wins
FA Cup213
League Cup002


Cup matches

Team 1ScoreTeam 2
16 November 1878Trent BridgeNotts County
Nottingham Forest FA Cup
8 November 1879Trent BridgeNottingham Forest
Notts County FA Cup
1 December 1883Trent BridgeNotts County
Nottingham Forest FA Cup
26 November 1887Trent BridgeNottingham Forest
Notts County FA Cup
24 February 1894Trent BridgeNottingham Forest
Notts County FA Cup
3 March 1894Trent BridgeNotts County
Nottingham Forest FA Cup
1 January 1978City GroundNottingham Forest
Notts County League Cup
9 August 2011City GroundNottingham Forest
(4–3 p)
Notts County League Cup

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