Second Thoughts | ||||
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Released | August 1976 (AUS, NZ) September 1976 (UK) January 1977 (US) | |||
Recorded | April – May 1976 | |||
Studio | Basing Street, London | |||
Genre | Progressive rock | |||
Length | 41:48 | |||
Label | Mushroom Records (AUS/NZ), Chrysalis Records (Rest of world) | |||
Producer | Phil Manzanera | |||
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Second Thoughts is the second studio album by New Zealand art rock band Split Enz. It was recorded in London with Roxy Music's guitarist Phil Manzanera producing the album.
Four of the songs on the album were reworked versions of songs from their 1975 debut album, Mental Notes . Two other songs on the album had been first recorded during the Mental Notes sessions, but left off and re-recorded for Second Thoughts. There were two new songs, both written by Phil Judd, and a re-recording of an early Judd/Finn composition ("129"), which for the Second Thoughts version, was renamed "Matinee Idyll".
The album was called Mental Notes when released outside Australasia and also featured a reworked version of the Mental Notes cover (for comparison see original and remake). Wally Wilkinson's image was replaced with that of Robert Gillies, and some band members are shown with newer haircuts: Phil Judd was now bald, and Tim Finn had his sides shaved.
Tim Finn, Robert Gillies and Eddie Rayner have said that the band felt the songs needed to be redone. But both Phil Judd and Noel Crombie have said that the re-recording of the Mental Notes tracks was a waste of time. On his MySpace forum, Judd has said that Tim Finn was obsessed with making the songs sound better, while he had new songs that he wanted to record.
No. | Title | Writer(s) | Length |
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1. | "Late Last Night" | Phil Judd | 4:03 |
2. | "Walking Down a Road" (*) | Tim Finn, Phil Judd | 5:22 |
3. | "Titus" (*) | Phil Judd | 3:15 |
4. | "Lovey Dovey" (†) | Tim Finn, Phil Judd | 3:06 |
5. | "Sweet Dreams" | Phil Judd | 5:04 |
No. | Title | Writer(s) | Length |
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1. | "Stranger Than Fiction" (*) | Tim Finn, Phil Judd | 7:07 |
2. | "Time for a Change" (*) | Phil Judd | 4:05 |
3. | "Matinee Idyll" | Tim Finn, Phil Judd | 2:56 |
4. | "The Woman Who Loves You" (†) | Tim Finn, Phil Judd | 6:50 |
Split Enz
Additional personnel
Chart (1976) | Peak position |
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Australia (Kent Music Report) [2] | 25 |
New Zealand Albums (RMNZ) [3] | 18 |
Split Enz were a New Zealand band formed in Auckland in 1972. Regarded as the first New Zealand band to gain significant recognition outside of Australasia, they were noted for their flamboyant visual style and theatrical performances. Originally formed by university students Tim Finn and Phil Judd as an acoustic-based act, they built a strong regional reputation as an art rock band before moving to Australia in 1975, where they recorded and released their debut album Mental Notes. Their second and third albums, Second Thoughts (1976) and Dizrythmia (1977) were recorded in the UK. Judd left before the recording of the latter and was replaced by Tim Finn's brother Neil. This change, as well as Neil's increasing involvement in the songwriting process, signaled a shift away from the band's art rock roots and towards a new wave-influenced pop sound that culminated in the band's most commercial period in the early 1980s starting with the single "I Got You", whose breakthrough along with its parent album True Colours (1980) gained them significant international success.
Brian Timothy Finn is a New Zealand singer, songwriter, musician, and composer. He is best known as a founding member of Split Enz. Finn founded the band in 1972 with Phil Judd and served as lead singer and principal songwriter. Following Judd's departure in 1977, he was joined by brother Neil. Finn wrote or co-wrote some of the band's best-known songs, including "I See Red" and "Six Months in a Leaky Boat". While still a member of Split Enz, he began a solo career, scoring the two hits "Fraction Too Much Friction" and "Made My Day" in 1983; he left the band in 1984.
Schnell Fenster were a New Zealand rock band formed in Melbourne, Australia in 1986 by Noel Crombie on drums and percussion, Nigel Griggs on bass guitar and backing vocals, Phil Judd on lead vocals and guitar, and Eddie Rayner on keyboards and piano – who were all former members of New Zealand-formed rock group, Split Enz. Fellow founder, Michael den Elzen on lead guitar had worked with Tim Finn Band, another band formed by a Split Enz alumnus. Judd's band were briefly named The Wanx: but Rayner soon left and they changed their name to faux-German for "quick window", because it "appealed to [their] perversity". The group formed the core members of Noel's Cowards, a short-term ensemble, whose sole output was six tracks for the soundtrack of a feature film, Rikky and Pete, in 1988. Schnell Fenster released two studio albums, The Sound of Trees (1988) and Ok Alright a Huh Oh Yeah (1990), before disbanding in 1992. At the ARIA Music Awards of 1989 they were nominated for Breakthrough Artist – Album for The Sound of Trees, Breakthrough Artist – Single for "Whisper" and Best Cover Art for Judd's graphic art.
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