1867 Melbourne Cup

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1867 Melbourne Cup
Melbourne Cup
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1867 Melbourne Cup won by (Sydney) Tim Whiffler
Location Flemington Racecourse
Date31 October 1867
Distance2 miles
Winning horse Tim Whiffler
Winning time3:39.0
Final odds5/2
Jockey John Driscoll
Trainer Etienne de Mestre
Owner Etienne de Mestre
Conditions Good
SurfaceTurf
Attendance16,000
  1866
1868  

The 1867 Melbourne Cup was a two-mile handicap horse race which took place on Thursday, 31 October 1867.

Contents

This year was the seventh running of the Melbourne Cup. Just like in 1866 the race saw two horses with the same name take part. Both horses were called Tim Whiffler. To avoid another mix up the horses were referred to as 'Melbourne Tim' and 'Sydney Tim'. 'Sydney Tim' was trained by Etienne de Mestre who trained Archer to win the first two Melbourne Cups. 'Sydney Tim' won the AJC Derby on route to a 2 length win as 5/2 favourite. 'Melbourne Tim' ran fifth while Exile the previous year's runner up finished third. The Tim Whiffler's who ran in this race are not to be confused with Tim Whiffler son of 'Sydeney Tim' who won the Great Northern Derby in New Zealand in 1881 nor an English sire also named Tim Whiffler who was brought to Australia and sired future cup winners Briseis and Darriwell. [1] The winning time of 3:39.0 was at the time the fastest winning time in the race's history. [2]

The Victoria Racing Club (VRC) received 65 entries for the race. [3] Following declarations 30 runners were nominated for the race, although three horses were scratched before race day, leaving a field of 27 horses to start under grey skies. [3] [4] [5] There were criticisms that some of the Sydney-trained horses had been harshly weighted by the VRC Handicapping Committee, [3] but the punters disgreed, installing Sydney Tim as clear favourite despite the heavy weight handicap. The next most fancied runner was fellow Sydney-trained Fireworks from the stable of previous year's winner John Tait. [3]

The attendence at Flemington was "greater than seen before" for the race. [3] Following a false start where Lancashire Witch went on a solo gallop and subsequently did not return to the start in time, Fireworks was slow to start behind the field. Along the back of the course, 1865 Melbourne Cup winner Toryboy alternated the lead with Barwon and Rip Van Winkle, until they were joined by Exile and Sparrowhawk. In the final mile of the race, Sydney Tim went forward as Exile led the horses into the Flemington straight. Sydney Tim took the lead down the straight, out-galloping the field to win by two lengths from Queen of Hearts. [4] [6]

The win was the third Melbourne Cup for owner/trainer Etienne de Mestre who had previously stated that he would never return to the race following the controversy surrounding the entries for the 1863 Melbourne Cup. [7]

Full results

This is the list of placegetters for the 1867 Melbourne Cup. [8] [9] [2] [7] [4]

PlaceHorseAge
Gender
JockeyWeightTrainerOwnerOddsMargin
1Sydney Tim Whiffler 5y h John Driscoll 8 st 11 lb (55.8 kg) Etienne de Mestre Etienne de Mestre 5/2 fav.2 lengths
2Queen of Hearts3y fT. Bennett5 st 12 lb (37.2 kg) [a] Sam Waldock30/11 length
3ExileAged gBobby Waterman7 st 10 lb (49.0 kg)Dan Melhado20/1
4Glencoe3y cCoker6 st 4 lb (39.9 kg)John Tait12/1
5Melbourne Tim Whiffler5y hJoe Morrison8 st 8 lb (54.4 kg)Walter Craig50/1
N/aFalcon6y gCharles Stanley8 st 7 lb (54.0 kg)John Tait20/1
N/aStropAged gGill8 st 7 lb (54.0 kg)William Field25/1
N/aCowra5y mThompson8 st 7 lb (54.0 kg)Mr E.M. Bagot20/1
N/a Nimblefoot 4y gJoe Carter8 st 1 lb (51.3 kg)Walter Craig33/1
N/aBarwon8y hH. Cooke8 st 1 lb (51.3 kg) [b] John Cleeland20/1
N/aCrusader4y hNunn7 st 1 lb (44.9 kg)Mr Adcock100/1
N/aNorth Australian4y hHolmes7 st 9 lb (48.5 kg) Ratcliffe Pring 33/1
N/aSparrowhawk6y gHarry Chifney [c] 7 st 7 lb (47.6 kg)William Pearson25/1
N/aWoodmanAged gThomas Pullar7 st 7 lb (47.6 kg)Mr J. Holmes50/1
N/aCedricAged gTunstall7 st 6 lb (47.2 kg)Mr J. Lamb100/1
N/aPoetess5y mArch Hill7 st 6 lb (47.2 kg)Mr F. Hobson33/1
N/aMary AnnAged mJ. Hill7 st 2 lb (45.4 kg)Mr J. Whitehead100/1
N/a Toryboy 10y gS. Davis7 st 0 lb (44.5 kg)Mr J. Walker20/1
N/aShenandoahAged mAlf Hill6 st 13 lb (44.0 kg) [d] John Cleeland33/1
N/aFireworks3y cGreene6 st 7 lb (41.3 kg)John Tait3/1
N/aLady Jane4y mJ. Taylor6 st 5 lb (40.4 kg)Mr F. Howell100/1
N/aProtection6y gFrancis6 st 5 lb (40.4 kg) [e] Mr J. Holmes50/1
N/aRip Van Winkle3y cMathieson5 st 10 lb (36.3 kg)Mr G. Lewis25/1
N/aThe Fly3y fJamieson5 st 9 lb (35.8 kg) Charles Brown Fisher 12/1
LastPrivateer [f] Aged gH. Taylor6 st 8 lb (41.7 kg)Mr J. Rule10/1
DNFSmuggler5y hA. Davis9 st 3 lb (58.5 kg) Charles Brown Fisher 50/1
DNSLancashire Witch3y fJ. Adderley6 st 2 lb (39.0 kg) [g] Louis Lawrence Smith 50/1
SCRRose of Australia5y mN/aN/aN/aMr J. EalesN/a
SCRHarbinger3y cN/aN/aN/aMr T. GordonN/a
SCRPalladium3y fN/aN/aN/aSam WaldockN/a

Prizemoney

First prize £1130, second prize £20. [2]

See also

Notes

  1. Was supposed to carry 5st 10lb
  2. Was supposed to carry 7st 12lb
  3. Jockey Henry Dawes rode under the name Harry Chifney.
  4. Was supposed to carry 6st 10lb
  5. Was supposed to carry 6st 0lb
  6. Formerly known as Glenyville
  7. Was supposed to carry 5st 13lb

References

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  2. 1 2 3 "1867 Melbourne Cup MillersGuide". millersguide.identika.com.au. Archived from the original on 23 March 2022. Retrieved 16 December 2025.
  3. 1 2 3 4 5 "The Victoria Racing Club Spring Meeting". The Australasian. Melbourne, Victoria. 2 November 1867. pp. 9–10. Retrieved 16 December 2025.
  4. 1 2 3 "The Spring Meeting of the Victoria Racing Club". The Argus. Melbourne, Victoria. 1 November 1867. pp. 5–6. Retrieved 15 December 2025.
  5. "The Cup Day". Bell's Life in Victoria and Sporting Chronicle. Melbourne, Victoria. 2 November 1867. p. 5. Retrieved 15 December 2025.
  6. "Melbourne Spring Races". Bell's Life in Victoria and Sporting Chronicle. Melbourne, Victoria. 2 November 1867. p. 4.
  7. 1 2 "Melbourne Cup Winners - 1861-1880". Victoria Racing Club. Retrieved 5 November 2025.
  8. "1861 to 1870 Melbourne Cup Winners". races com au. Retrieved 15 September 2021.
  9. Cavanough, Maurice (1978). The Melbourne Cup (8 ed.). p. 445. ISBN   0727004859.