Loggins and Messina

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Loggins and Messina
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Loggins (left) and Messina (right) in 1972
Background information
OriginUnited States
Genres
Years active
  • 1971–1976
  • 2005
  • 2009
Labels Columbia
Past members
Website logginsandmessina.com

Loggins and Messina was an American pop rock duo consisting of Kenny Loggins and Jim Messina, who achieved major chart success during the early-mid 1970s. Among their well-known songs are "Danny's Song", "House at Pooh Corner", and "Your Mama Don't Dance". After selling more than 16 million records and becoming one of the leading musical duos of the 1970s, [2] Loggins and Messina separated in 1976. Although Messina would find only limited popularity following the breakup, Loggins went on to achieve major chart success in the 1980s. In 2005 and again in 2009, Loggins and Messina reformed for tours in the United States.

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History

Initial career 1971–1976

Jim Messina, formerly of Buffalo Springfield and Poco, was working as an independent record producer for Columbia Records in 1970 when he met Kenny Loggins, a little-known singer/songwriter and guitarist who was signed to ABC-Dunhill as a staff songwriter. [3]

The two recorded a number of Loggins' compositions in Messina's home living room. When Columbia signed Loggins to a six-album contract (with the assistance of Messina), recording began in earnest for Loggins' debut album, with Messina as producer. Messina originally intended to lend his name to the Loggins project only to help introduce the unknown Loggins to Messina's well-established Buffalo Springfield and Poco audiences. However, by the time the album was completed, Messina had contributed so much to the album – in terms of songwriting, arrangement, instrumentation, and vocals – that an "accidental" duo was born.

Their debut album was released November 1971 as Kenny Loggins with Jim Messina Sittin' In . The album's first single release, the Caribbean-flavored "Vahevala" (or "Vahevella" or "Vaheevella"), found top 3 success on Chicago's WCFL on May 18, 1972. [4] "Vahevala" and "Nobody But You" both reached the Hot 100. Although at first the album went unnoticed by radio upon release, it eventually gained traction by autumn 1972, particularly on college campuses, where the pair toured heavily. Loggins' and Messina's harmonies meshed so well that what was begun as a one-off album became an entity unto itself. Audiences regarded the pair as a genuine duo rather than as a solo act with a well-known producer. Instead of just continuing to produce Loggins as a sole performer, they decided to record as a duo: Loggins and Messina. [3]

On March 3, 1973, Loggins and Messina played Carnegie Hall. Ian Dove in the New York Times called it a "near-perfect rock 'n' roll concert". [5]

"When our first album, Sittin' In , came out, we started receiving a lot of excitement about the music and good sales," Messina recalled in 2005. "We had a choice. It was either I now go on and continue to produce him and we do the solo career or we stay together and let this work. For me, I did not desire to go back out on the road. I had had enough of that, and I wanted to produce records. But Clive Davis (then president of the record company) intervened and said, 'You know, I think you'd be making a mistake if you guys didn't take this opportunity. Things like this only happen once in a lifetime. It may merit you sleeping on it overnight and making a decision that will be in your best interest.' He was absolutely correct. Kenny made the decision as well. It delayed his solo career, but it gave him an opportunity, I think, to have one." [2]

Messina assembled The Kenny Loggins Band by summoning old friends, bassist Larry Sims and drummer Merel Bregante, formerly of The Sunshine Company, multireedist Jon Clarke, and violinist/multireedist Al Garth. Famed Grammy-winning keyboardist, songwriter and record producer Michael Omartian played keyboards on the debut, second and third albums, but did not join them on tour. Los Angeles–based session percussionist Milt Holland played on all of the duo's studio albums, but like Omartian, he did not tour with them. [6]

Over the next four years, from 1972 to 1976, they produced four more studio albums of original material, plus one album of covers of other artists' material ( So Fine ), and two live albums. They sold 16 million records and were the most successful duo of the early 1970s, surpassed later in the decade only by Hall & Oates. [2] They charted three top 20 singles from the second and third albums: "Your Mama Don't Dance" (No. 4), "Thinking of You" (No. 18), and "My Music" (No. 16). Their work was covered by other prominent artists, including Lynn Anderson, who recorded "Listen to a Country Song" in 1972 and reached No. 3 on the charts, and Anne Murray, who reached the U.S. top ten with "Danny's Song" in early 1973 and the U.S. top twenty with "A Love Song" in early 1974. The later studio albums, Mother Lode (1974), Native Sons (1976), often found both Loggins and Messina more as two solo artists sharing the same record rather than as a genuine partnership. As both Loggins and Messina noted in 2005, their collaboration eventually became more a competition.

Never really a team of true equals because of the teacher–apprentice nature of their music experience levels, the pair had quietly, amicably parted in 1976. Their final studio album of original material, Native Sons , was released January 1976. Later that year the duo went on a final tour, [3] though prior to the start of the tour, Loggins accidentally cut his hand with a craft knife while practicing his wood-carving hobby at home which required surgery, thereby preventing him from playing guitar for most of that final tour. The final two concert dates of Loggins & Messina - as a duo - were in Honolulu, Hawaii, at the Neil S. Blaisdell Center, on September 24 and 25, 1976, upon which the duo then parted to embark on solo careers. Messina found solo success elusive, but Loggins went on to become one of the biggest hit makers of the 1980s.

A greatest-hits album, The Best of Friends , was released in November 1976, two months after the duo had ended. In January 1977, a second live album (from concerts in 1975 and 1976), Finale , was released, more by record company decision than one intended by the artists.

Reformation

The two reunited in 2005 to choose tracks for an expanded compilation album of singles and album cuts The Best: Sittin' In Again , which proved successful enough for them to embark on tour together. Their successful "Sittin' In Again" tour was launched in mid-2005 and played-out the remainder of the year. They also released an album that year of the tour. "Every couple of years we'd talk about it, but I was having too much fun as a solo artist," Loggins said that summer. "It was very rewarding for me, and I wasn't ready to share the reins. I still had a lot of stuff to do on my own, to prove myself and to express myself, in a way that wouldn't have fit in with Loggins and Messina." [2]

The two were pleased enough to consider future Loggins and Messina projects and the two also toured in 2009. "Like most relationships, we were a moment in time," Loggins said. "It's just really fun to be able to go back and celebrate that and just sort of really honor each other as grown men, in a way we never really did back then. We were young and competitive and didn't realize that it wasn't necessarily all about getting your way, but you learn that if you grow up." [2]

Their backing band changed from album to album, with the core members listed below. Many albums featured backing members who were well known in their own right; John Townsend and Ed Sanford, later of the Sanford-Townsend Band ("Smoke from a Distant Fire"), contributed vocals and songwriting to the Native Sons, their final studio album.

Members

Supporting personnel

Discography

Studio albums

YearAlbumPeak chart positions Certifications
US
[7]
AUS
[8]
1971 Sittin' In 70
  • US: Platinum
1972 Loggins and Messina 1661
  • US: Platinum
1973 Full Sail 10
  • US: Platinum
1974 Mother Lode 889
  • US: Gold
1975 So Fine 2183
1976 Native Sons 16
  • US: Gold
"—" denotes releases that did not chart.

Live albums

YearAlbumPeak chart positionsCertifications
US
[7]
AUS
[8]
1974 On Stage 597
  • US: Platinum
1977 Finale 83
2005 Live: Sittin' In Again at the Santa Barbara Bowl
"—" denotes releases that did not chart.

Compilation albums

YearAlbum US
[7]
Certifications
1976 The Best of Friends 61
  • US: 2× Platinum
1980 The Best of Loggins & Messina
2005 The Best: Sittin' in Again
2006Their Music
"—" denotes releases that did not chart.

Charted singles

YearSongPeak chart positionsCertifications
US
[9]
US C/B
[9]
US A/C
[10]
CAN
[11]
AUS
[8]
1972"Vahevala"848387
"Nobody But You"868880
"Your Mama Don't Dance"4519530
  • US: Gold
1973"Thinking of You"181172065
"My Music"1613102865
1974"Watching the River Run"71413651
1975"Changes"846285
"Growin'"52451851
"I Like It Like That"8492
"A Lover's Question"8994
1976"Peacemaker"113
"—" denotes releases that did not chart.

Related Research Articles

<span class="mw-page-title-main">Kenny Loggins</span> American singer and guitarist

Kenneth Clark Loggins is an American singer, guitarist and songwriter. His early songs were recorded with the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band in 1970, which led to seven albums recorded with Jim Messina as Loggins and Messina from 1972 to 1977. His early soundtrack contributions date back to A Star Is Born in 1976, and he is known as the King of the Movie Soundtrack. As a solo artist, Loggins experienced a string of soundtrack successes, including an Academy Award nomination for "Footloose" in 1985. Finally Home was released in 2013, shortly after Loggins formed the group Blue Sky Riders with Gary Burr and Georgia Middleman. He won a Daytime Emmy Award, two Grammy Awards and was nominated for an Academy Award, a Tony Award and a Golden Globe Award.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">Jim Messina (musician)</span> American musician

James Messina is an American musician, songwriter, singer, guitarist, recording engineer, and record producer. He was a member of the folk rock group Buffalo Springfield, a founding member of the pioneering country rock band Poco, and half of the soft rock duo Loggins and Messina with Kenny Loggins.

<i>Sittin In</i> (Loggins and Messina album) 1971 studio album by Loggins and Messina

Sittin' In is the first album by singer-songwriters Loggins and Messina, released in 1971.

<i>Loggins and Messina</i> (album) 1972 studio album by Loggins and Messina

Loggins and Messina is the second album by singer-songwriters Loggins and Messina, released in 1972.

<i>Full Sail</i> (Loggins and Messina album) 1973 studio album by Loggins and Messina

Full Sail is the third album by singer-songwriter duo Loggins and Messina, released in 1973. It showed the versatility of the duo, with everything from 1950s retro to island-style to soft ballads. The single "My Music" charted at No. 16, and the follow-up, "Watching the River Run", made it to No. 71. The album as a whole did better, reaching No. 10 on the Pop Charts.

<i>On Stage</i> (Loggins and Messina album) 1974 live album by Loggins and Messina

On Stage is the fourth album by singer-songwriter duo Loggins and Messina, released in 1974. As their first live album, it was released as a double album and featured a side-long version of their hit song "Vahevala".

<i>Mother Lode</i> (album) 1974 studio album by Loggins and Messina

Mother Lode is the fourth studio album by singer-songwriter duo Loggins and Messina, released in late 1974. It was their final album with their original backing band, because multireedist and violinist Al Garth would soon leave the band, but multireedist Jon Clarke, bassist Larry Sims and drummer Merel Bregante remained, and saxophonist Don Roberts made his debut on this record. Future Toto keyboardist David Paich plays keyboards on this album while percussionist Milt Holland is augmented by Victor Feldman and the album was recorded on location at Jim Messina's California ranch. The Jim Messina composition "Keep Me in Mind" was sung by bassist Sims, whom Messina praised for having a phenomenal voice in a 2009 interview with Loggins for KCTS-TV.

<i>So Fine</i> (Loggins and Messina album) 1975 studio album by Loggins and Messina

So Fine is the fifth studio album by singer-songwriter duo Loggins and Messina, released in 1975. It consists of a collection of covers of 1950s and 1960s rock, country and rockabilly songs.

<i>Native Sons</i> (Loggins and Messina album) 1976 studio album by Loggins and Messina

Native Sons is the sixth and final studio album by singer-songwriter duo Loggins and Messina, released in January 1976. It was a departure from previous recordings owing to the presence of string sections, stronger emphasis on flute, minimized use of saxophone, downplayed country influences and Jim Messina's signature guitar work was barely in evidence. After a final concert in Hawaii, the duo quietly went their separate ways. The Messina-penned rock and roll song "Boogie Man" was later covered by Australian rock band The Blue Echoes.

<i>Finale</i> (album) 1977 live album by Loggins and Messina

Finale is the second live double album by singer-songwriter duo Loggins and Messina, released in early 1977. Tracks on the album are from performances while touring in 1975 and 1976.

<i>The Best of Friends</i> (album) 1976 compilation album by Loggins and Messina

The Best of Friends is a compilation album by singer-songwriter duo Loggins and Messina, released in late 1976.

<i>The Best of Loggins & Messina</i> 1980 greatest hits album by Loggins and Messina

The Best of Loggins & Messina is a compilation album by singer-songwriter duo Loggins and Messina, released in late 1980. This album was released by their new label, Embassy Records.

<i>The Best: Sittin in Again</i> 2005 greatest hits album by Loggins and Messina

The Best: Sittin' In Again is the 10th release by singer-songwriter duo Loggins and Messina, a compilation album released in mid-2005. This release was timed to preview the duo's subsequent reunion tour. It contains most of their hits and provides a retrospective view of their music from 1971 to 1974. The 18 tracks appearing on the collection were personally selected by Loggins and Messina. Six of the tracks are from their debut album Sittin' In, six are from their 2nd release Loggins and Messina, four are off the 3rd album Full Sail, and two are featured on their 4th LP Mother Lode. No tracks from either of their last two studio albums are included.

<i>Live: Sittin In Again at the Santa Barbara Bowl</i> 2005 live album by Loggins and Messina

Live: Sittin' in Again at Santa Barbara Bowl is a live compilation album by singer-songwriter duo Loggins and Messina, released in late 2005. It was recorded in Santa Barbara at one of the first performances of their reunion tour. The physical CD features thirteen tracks; however an online download-only version includes five additional tracks: "Sailin' the Wind", "Long Tail Cat", "Thinking of You", "Be Free", and "You Need a Man" which can also be heard on the DVD release of the concert.

<i>Celebrate Me Home</i> 1977 studio album by Kenny Loggins

Celebrate Me Home is the debut studio album by American singer-songwriter Kenny Loggins. It was released on April 13, 1977, by Columbia Records. The album was Loggins' first since splitting from Loggins and Messina, represents a slight move away from the folk-rock leanings of his previous recordings towards a more polished, soft rock sound.

<i>The Essential Kenny Loggins</i> 2002 compilation album by Kenny Loggins

The Essential Kenny Loggins is the third compilation and second greatest hits album by American singer-songwriter Kenny Loggins, released on November 19, 2002. It is part of Sony BMG's Essential series of compilation albums and includes tracks from Loggins' solo output, as well as tracks from his Loggins and Messina days. A limited edition was released with seven additional tracks.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">A Love Song (Loggins and Messina song)</span> 1973 single by Anne Murray

"A Love Song" is a song written by Kenny Loggins and Dona Lyn George, first released by the folk-rock duo Loggins and Messina in 1973 on their album Full Sail. Country artist Anne Murray covered the song later that year for her album of the same name.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">House at Pooh Corner (song)</span> 1971 single by Nitty Gritty Dirt Band

"House at Pooh Corner" is a song written by Kenny Loggins, based on the children's book of the same name. It was first performed by the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band on their 1970 album Uncle Charlie & His Dog Teddy.

"Danny's Song" is a song written by American singer-songwriter Kenny Loggins, as a gift for his brother Danny for the birth of his son, Colin. It first appeared on an album by Gator Creek and a year later on the album Sittin' In, the debut album by Loggins and Messina. The song is well remembered for both the Loggins and Messina original, as well as for Anne Murray's 1972 top-ten-charting cover.

<span class="mw-page-title-main">Listen to a Country Song (song)</span> 1972 single by Lynn Anderson

"Listen to a Country Song" is a song written by Al Garth and Jim Messina. It was originally recorded by Loggins and Messina on their 1971 album Sittin' In. Drummer Merel Bregante is using brushes on his drum kit rather than sticks, which helps to reflect the country feel of the song, Al Garth is playing violin and Michael Omartian is playing both tack piano and grand piano.

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